an.3.21 Aṅguttara Nikāya (Numbered Discourses)

Saviṭṭha

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s Park. Then the Venerable Saviṭṭha and the Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita approached the Venerable Sāriputta and exchanged greetings with him. When they had concluded their greetings and cordial talk, they sat down to one side. The Venerable Sāriputta then said to the Venerable Saviṭṭha:

“Friend Saviṭṭha, there are these three kinds of persons found existing in the world. What three? The body witness, the one attained to view, and the one liberated by faith. These are the three kinds of persons found existing in the world. Which of these three kinds of persons do you consider the most excellent and sublime?”

“Friend Sāriputta, of those three kinds of persons, I consider the one liberated by faith to be the most excellent and sublime. For what reason? Because this person’s faculty of faith is predominant.”

Then the Venerable Sāriputta said to the Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita: “Friend Koṭṭhita, there are these three kinds of persons found existing in the world…. Which of these three kinds of persons do you consider the most excellent and sublime?”

“Friend Sāriputta, of those three kinds of persons, I consider the body witness to be the most excellent and sublime. For what reason? Because this person’s faculty of concentration is predominant.”

Then the Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita said to the Venerable Sāriputta: “Friend Sāriputta, there are these three kinds of persons found existing in the world…. Which of these three kinds of persons do you consider the most excellent and sublime?”

“Friend Koṭṭhita, of those three kinds of persons, I consider the one attained to view to be the most excellent and sublime. For what reason? Because this person’s faculty of wisdom is predominant.”

Then the Venerable Sāriputta said to the Venerable Saviṭṭha and the Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita: “Friends, we have each explained according to our own ideal. Come, let’s approach the Blessed One and report this matter to him. We will retain it in mind as he explains it to us.”

“Yes, friend,” the Venerable Saviṭṭha and the Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita replied. Then the Venerable Sāriputta, the Venerable Saviṭṭha, and the Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita approached the Blessed One, paid homage to him, and sat down to one side. The Venerable Sāriputta then reported to him the entire conversation that had taken place.

The Blessed One said: “It isn’t easy, Sāriputta, to make a definitive declaration about this matter and say: ‘Of these three kinds of persons, this one is the most excellent and sublime.’

(1) “For it is possible that a person liberated by faith is practicing for arahantship, while a body witness and one attained to view are once-returners or non-returners. It isn’t easy, Sāriputta, to make a definitive declaration about this matter and say: ‘Of these three kinds of persons, this one is the most excellent and sublime.’

(2) “It is possible that a person who is a body witness is practicing for arahantship, while one liberated by faith and one attained to view are once-returners or non-returners. It isn’t easy, Sāriputta, to make a definitive declaration about this matter and say: ‘Of these three kinds of persons, this one is the most excellent and sublime.’

(3) “It is possible that a person attained to view is practicing for arahantship, while one liberated by faith and a body witness are once-returners or non-returners. It isn’t easy, Sāriputta, to make a definitive declaration about this matter and say: ‘Of these three kinds of persons, this one is the most excellent and sublime.’”

- Translator: Bhikkhu Bodhi

- Editor: Blake Walsh

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With Saviṭṭha

Then Sāriputta told the Buddha of all they had discussed.
“In this matter, Sāriputta, it’s not easy to definitively declare that
one of these three people is finest.
So I have heard.
At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
Then Venerable Saviṭṭha and Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita went up to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him.
When the greetings and polite conversation were over, they sat down to one side and Venerable Sāriputta said to Venerable Saviṭṭha,
“Reverend Saviṭṭha, these three people are found in the world.
What three?
The personal witness, the one attained to view, and the one freed by faith.
These are the three people found in the world.
Of these three people, who do you believe to be the finest?”
“Reverend Sāriputta, these three people are found in the world.
What three?
The personal witness, the one attained to view, and the one freed by faith.
These are the three people found in the world.
Of these three people, I believe the person freed by faith to be finest.
Why is that?
Because this person’s faculty of faith is outstanding.”
Then Sāriputta said to Mahākoṭṭhita,
“Reverend Koṭṭhika, these three people are found in the world.
What three?
The personal witness, the one attained to view, and the one freed by faith.
These are the three people found in the world.
Of these three people, who do you believe to be the finest?”
“Reverend Sāriputta, these three people are found in the world.
What three?
The personal witness, the one attained to view, and the one freed by faith.
These are the three people found in the world.
Of these three people, I believe the personal witness to be finest.
Why is that?
Because this person’s faculty of immersion is outstanding.”
Then Mahākoṭṭhita said to Sāriputta,
“Reverend Sāriputta, these three people are found in the world.
What three?
The personal witness, the one attained to view, and the one freed by faith.
These are the three people found in the world.
Of these three people, who do you believe to be the finest?”
“Reverend Koṭṭhika, these three people are found in the world.
What three?
The personal witness, the one attained to view, and the one freed by faith.
These are the three people found in the world.
Of these three people, I believe the person attained to view to be finest.
Why is that?
Because this person’s faculty of wisdom is outstanding.”
Then Sāriputta said to Saviṭṭha and Mahākoṭṭhita,
“Each of us has spoken from the heart.
Come, reverends, let’s go to the Buddha, and tell him about this.
As he answers, so we’ll remember it.”
“Yes, reverend,” they replied.
Then Sāriputta, Saviṭṭha, and Mahākoṭṭhita went up to the Buddha, bowed, and sat down to one side.
In some cases, a person who is freed by faith is practicing for perfection, while the personal witness and the one attained to view are once-returners or non-returners.
In this matter, it’s not easy to definitively declare that
one of these three people is finest.
In some cases, a personal witness is practicing for perfection, while the one freed by faith and the one attained to view are once-returners or non-returners.
In this matter, it’s not easy to definitively declare that
one of these three people is finest.
In some cases, one attained to view is practicing for perfection, while the one freed by faith and the personal witness are once-returners or non-returners.
In this matter, it’s not easy to definitively declare that
one of these three people is finest.”