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an.4.102 Aṅguttara Nikāya (Numbered Discourses)

Thunderheads

“There are these four types of thunderheads. Which four? One that thunders but doesn’t rain, one that rains but doesn’t thunder, one that neither thunders nor rains, and one that both thunders and rains. These are the four types of thunderheads.

“In the same way, these four types of persons resembling thunderheads are to be found existing in the world. Which four? The one that thunders but doesn’t rain, the one that rains but doesn’t thunder, the one that neither thunders nor rains, and the one that both thunders and rains.

“And how is one the type of person who thunders but doesn’t rain? There is the case where a person has mastered the Dhamma: dialogues, narratives of mixed prose and verse, explanations, verses, spontaneous exclamations, quotations, birth stories, amazing events, question & answer sessions. Yet he doesn’t discern, as it actually is present, that ‘This is stress.’ He doesn’t discern, as it actually is present, that ‘This is the origination of stress.’ He doesn’t discern, as it actually is present, that ‘This is the cessation of stress.’ He doesn’t discern, as it actually is present, that ‘This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress.’ This is the type of person who thunders but doesn’t rain. This type of person, I tell you, is like the thunderhead that thunders but doesn’t rain.

“And how is one the type of person who rains but doesn’t thunder? There is the case where a person has not mastered the Dhamma: dialogues… question & answer sessions. Yet he does discern, as it actually is present, that ‘This is stress.’ He discerns, as it actually is present, that ‘This is the origination of stress.’ He discerns, as it actually is present, that ‘This is the cessation of stress.’ He discerns, as it actually is present, that ‘This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress.’ This is the type of person who rains but doesn’t thunder. This type of person, I tell you, is like the thunderhead that rains but doesn’t thunder.

“And how is one the type of person who neither thunders nor rains? There is the case where a person has not mastered the Dhamma: dialogues… question & answer sessions. He doesn’t discern, as it actually is present, that ‘This is stress.’ … ‘This is the origination of stress.’ … ‘This is the cessation of stress.’ … ‘This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress.’ This is the type of person who neither thunders nor rains. This type of person, I tell you, is like the thunderhead that neither thunders nor rains.

“And how is one the type of person who both thunders and rains? There is the case where a person has mastered the Dhamma: dialogues… question & answer sessions. He discerns, as it actually is present, that ‘This is stress.’ … ‘This is the origination of stress.’ … ‘This is the cessation of stress.’ … ‘This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress.’ This is the type of person who both thunders and rains. This type of person, I tell you, is like the thunderhead that both thunders and rains.

“There are these four types of people to be found existing in the world.”

- Translator: Thanissaro Bhikkhu

- Editor: Gabriel Laera


Clouds (2nd)

“Mendicants, there are these four kinds of clouds.
What four?
One thunders but doesn’t rain,
one rains but doesn’t thunder,
one neither thunders nor rains, and
one both rains and thunders.
These are the four kinds of clouds.
In the same way, these four people similar to clouds are found in the world.
What four?
One thunders but doesn’t rain,
one rains but doesn’t thunder,
one neither thunders nor rains, and
one both rains and thunders.
And how does a person thunder but not rain?
It’s when a person memorizes the teaching—
statements, songs, discussions, verses, inspired exclamations, legends, stories of past lives, amazing stories, and classifications.
But they don’t truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’.
That’s how a person thunders but doesn’t rain.
That person is like a cloud that thunders but doesn’t rain, I say.

And how does a person rain but not thunder?
It’s when a person doesn’t memorize the teaching …

But they truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ …



And how does a person neither thunder nor rain?
It’s when a person doesn’t memorize the teaching …

Nor do they truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ …



And how does a person both thunder and rain?
It’s when a person memorizes the teaching …

And they truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ …



These four people similar to clouds are found in the world.”