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mn.43 Majjhima Nikāya (Middle Discourses)

Greater Discourse of the Miscellany

Thus have I heard: At one time the Lord was staying near Sāvatthī in the Jeta Grove in Anāthapiṇḍika's monastery. Then the venerable Koṭṭhita the Great, emerging from solitary meditation towards evening, approached the venerable Sāriputta: having approached, he exchanged greetings with the venerable Sāriputta; having exchanged greetings of friendliness and courtesy, he sat down at a respectful distance. As he was sitting down at a respectful distance, the venerable Koṭṭhita the Great spoke thus to the venerable Sāriputta: “Your reverence, one is called: ‘Poor in intuitive wisdom, poor in intuitive wisdom.’ Now what are the respects in which one is called ‘Poor in intuitive wisdom,’ your reverence?”

“Your reverence, if it is said ‘He does not comprehend, he does not comprehend,’ therefore he is called ‘Poor in intuitive wisdom.’ What does he not comprehend? He does not comprehend: ‘This is anguish,’ he does not comprehend: ‘This is the arising of anguish,’ he does not comprehend: ‘This is the stopping of anguish,’ he does not comprehend: ‘This is the course leading to the stopping of anguish.’ If it is said, ‘He does not comprehend, he does not comprehend,’ your reverence, therefore he is called ‘poor in intuitive wisdom.’”

“It is good, your reverence,” and the venerable Koṭṭhita the Great, having rejoiced in what the venerable Sāriputta had said, having thanked him, asked the venerable Sāriputta a further question: “Your reverence, one is called ‘Intuitively wise, intuitively wise.’ Now what are the respects in which one is called ‘intuitively wise,’ your reverence?” “Your reverence, if it is said ‘He comprehends, he comprehends,’ he is therefore called ‘Intuitively wise.’ And what does he comprehend? He comprehends: ‘This is anguish,’ he comprehends: ‘This is the arising of anguish,’ he comprehends: ‘This is the stopping of anguish,’ he comprehends: ‘This is the course leading to the stopping of anguish.’ If it is said, ‘He comprehends, he comprehends,’ your reverence, therefore he is called ‘intuitively wise.’”

“Your reverence, it is called ‘Discriminative consciousness, discriminative consciousness.’ Now in what respects, your reverence, is it called ‘discriminative consciousness’?” “Your reverence, if it said ‘It discriminates, it discriminates,’ it is therefore called discriminative consciousness. And what does it discriminate? It discriminates pleasure and it discriminates pain and it discriminates neither pain nor pleasure. If it is said ‘It discriminates, it discriminates,’ your reverence, therefore it is called ‘Discriminative consciousness.’”

“That which is intuitive wisdom, your reverence, and that which is discriminative consciousness, are these states associated or dissociated? And is it possible to lay down a difference between these states, having analysed them again and again?” “That which is intuitive wisdom, your reverence, and that which is discriminative consciousness, these states are associated, not dissociated, and it is not possible to lay down a difference between these states, having analysed them again and again. Whatever one comprehends, your reverence, that one discriminates; whatever one discriminates that one comprehends; therefore these states are associated, not dissociated, and it is not possible to lay down a difference between these states, having analysed them again and again.”

“That which is intuitive wisdom, your reverence, and that which is discriminative consciousness, what is the difference between these states which are associated, not dissociated?” “That which is intuitive wisdom, your reverence, and that which is discriminative consciousness among these states that are associated, not dissociated, intuitive wisdom is to be developed, discriminative consciousness is for apprehending. This is the difference between them.”

“Your reverence, it is said, ‘Feeling, feeling.’ Now what are the respects in which it is called ‘feeling,’ your reverence?” “Your reverence, if it is said, ‘He feels, he feels,’ it is therefore called ‘feeling.’ And what does he feel? He feels pleasure, and he feels pain, and he feels neither pain nor pleasure. If it is said, ‘He feels, he feels,’ your reverence, therefore it is called ‘feeling.’”

“Your reverence, it is said, ‘Perception, perception.’ Now what are the respects in which it is called ‘perception,’ your reverence?” “Your reverence, if it is said, ‘He perceives, he perceives,’ it is therefore called ‘perception.’ And what does he perceive? He perceives what is dark green and he perceives what is yellow and he perceives what is red and he perceives what is white. If it is said ‘He perceives, he perceives,’ your reverence, it is therefore called ‘perception.’”

“That which is feeling, your reverence, and that which is perception and that which is discriminative consciousness, are these states associated or dissociated? And is it possible to lay down a difference between these states, having analysed them again and again?” “That which is feeling, your reverence, and that which is perception and that which is discriminative consciousness, these states are associated, not dissociated, and it is not possible to lay down a difference between these states, having analysed them again and again. Your reverence, whatever one feels, that one perceives; whatever one perceives that one discriminates; therefore these states are associated, not dissociated, and it is not possible to lay down a difference between these states, having analysed them again and again.”

“What is knowable, your reverence, by purified mental consciousness isolated from the five sense-organs?” “Your reverence, thinking, ‘Ether is unending,’ the plane of infinite ether is knowable by pure mental consciousness isolated from the five sense-organs; thinking, ‘Consciousness is unending,’ the plane of infinite consciousness is knowable; thinking, ‘There is not anything,’ the plane of no-thing is knowable.”

“By what means does one comprehend a knowable mental object, your reverence?” “One comprehends a knowable mental object, your reverence, by means of the eye of intuitive wisdom.”

“But what is intuitive wisdom for, your reverence?” “Your reverence, intuitive wisdom is for super-knowledge, for apprehending, for getting rid of.”

“But how many conditions are there, your reverence, for bringing right understanding into existence?” “There are two conditions, your reverence, for bringing right understanding into existence: the utterance of another (person) and wise attention. Your reverence, these are the two conditions for bringing right understanding into existence.”

“If right understanding is forwarded, by how many factors, your reverence, does there come to be the fruit of freedom of mind and the advantage of the fruit of freedom of mind, and the fruit of freedom through intuitive wisdom and the advantage of the fruit of freedom through intuitive wisdom?” “Your reverence, if right understanding is forwarded by five factors there comes to be the fruit of freedom of mind and the advantage of the fruit of freedom of mind, and the fruit of freedom through intuitive wisdom and the advantage of the fruit of freedom through intuitive wisdom. In this case, your reverence, right understanding is forwarded by moral habit, and it is forwarded by hearing, and it is forwarded by discussion, and it is forwarded by calm and it is forwarded by vision. Your reverence, if right understanding is forwarded by these five factors, there comes to be the fruit of freedom of mind and the advantage of the fruit of freedom of mind, and there comes to be the fruit of freedom through intuitive wisdom and the advantage of the fruit of freedom through intuitive wisdom.”

“And how many becomings are there, your reverence?” “These three are becomings, your reverence: becoming of sense-pleasures, becoming of fine-materiality, becoming of immateriality.”

“How, your reverence, is there the recurrence of again-becoming in the future?” “For those creatures who are hindered by ignorance, fettered by craving, delighting in this and that, there thus comes to be recurrence of again-becoming in the future.”

“But how, your reverence, is there not recurrence of again-becoming in the future?” “By the fading away of ignorance, by the uprising of knowledge, by the stopping of craving, there is thus no recurrence of again-becoming in the future “

“And what, your reverence, is the first meditation?” “As to this, your reverence, a monk, aloof from pleasures of the senses, aloof from unskilled states of mind, enters on and abides in the first meditation which is accompanied by initial thought and discursive thought, is born of aloofness, and is rapturous and joyful. This, your reverence, is called the first meditation.”

“Of how many factors, your reverence, is the first meditation?” “Your reverence, the first meditation is five-factored: if a monk has entered on the first meditation there is initial thought and discursive thought and rapture and joy and one-pointedness of mind. Thus, your reverence, is the first meditation five-factored.”

“Your reverence, in regard to the first meditation, how many factors are abandoned, how many factors are possessed?” “Your reverence, in regard to the first meditation, five factors are abandoned, five are possessed: if a monk has entered on the first meditation, desire for sense-pleasure is abandoned, malevolence is abandoned, sloth and torpor are abandoned, restlessness and worry are abandoned, doubt is abandoned, but there is initial thought and discursive thought, rapture and joy and one-pointedness of mind. Thus, your reverence, in regard to the first meditation, five factors are abandoned, five factors are possessed.”

“Your reverence, these five sense-organs, different in range, different in pasture, do not react to the pasture and range of one another; that is to say: the organ of eye, the organ of ear, the organ of nose, the organ of tongue, the organ of body. What is the repository of these five sense-organs, different in range, different in pasture, which do not react to the pasture and range of one another? And what is it that reacts to their pasture and range?” “Your reverence, these five sense-organs, different in range, different in pasture, do not react to the pasture and range of one another; that is to say: the organ of eye, the organ of ear, the organ of nose, the organ of tongue, the organ of body. Of these five sense-organs, your reverence, different in range, different in pasture, not reacting to the pasture and range of one another, mind is the repository, and mind reacts to their pasture and range.”

“Your reverence, these are the five sense-organs; that is to say: the organ of eye, the organ of ear, the organ of nose, the organ of tongue, the organ of body. On what do these five sense-organs depend, your reverence?” “Your reverence, these are the five sense-organs, that is to say: the organ of eye, the organ of ear, the organ of nose, the organ of tongue, the organ of body. Your reverence, these five sense-organs depend on vitality.”

“And on what does vitality depend, your reverence?” “Vitality depends on heat.” “And on what does heat depend, your reverence?” “Heat depends on vitality.” “Your reverence, we now understand the words of the venerable Sāriputta thus: ‘Vitality depends on heat’; we now understand the words of the venerable Sāriputta thus: ‘Heat depends on vitality.’ What is the precise meaning to be attached to these words, your reverence?” “Well then, your reverence, I will make a simile for you. For by a simile some intelligent persons here might understand the meaning of what has been said: As when an oil lamp is burning the light is seen because of the flame and the flame is seen because of the light, so, your reverence, vitality depends on heat and heat on vitality.”

“Now, your reverence, are these properties of vitality states that are to be felt, or are the properties of vitality one thing, states that are to be felt another?” “Your reverence, these properties of vitality are not themselves states to be felt. If, your reverence, these properties of vitality were themselves states to be felt, no emergence could be shown for a monk who had won to the stopping of perception and feeling. But because, your reverence, the properties of vitality are one thing and states to be felt another, therefore the emergence of a monk who has won to the stopping of perception and feeling can be shown.”

“In regard to this body, your reverence, when how many things are got rid of, does this body lie cast away, flung aside like unto a senseless log of wood?” “In regard to this body, your reverence, when three things are got rid of: vitality, heat and consciousness, then does this body lie cast away, flung aside like unto a senseless log of wood.”

“What is the difference, your reverence, between that dead thing, passed away, and that monk who has attained to the stopping of perception and feeling?” “Your reverence, the bodily activities of that dead thing, passed away, have been stopped, have subsided, the vocal activities have been stopped, have subsided, the mental activities have been stopped, have subsided, the vitality is entirely destroyed, the heat allayed, the sense-organs are entirely broken asunder. But that monk who has attained to the stopping of perception and feeling, although his bodily activities have been stopped, have subsided, although his vocal activities have been stopped, have subsided, although his mental activities have been stopped, have subsided, his vitality is not entirely destroyed, his heat is not allayed, his sense-organs are purified. This, your reverence, is the difference between a dead thing, passed away, and that monk who has attained to the stopping of perception and feeling.”

“And how many conditions are there, your reverence, for the attainment of the freedom of mind which has neither anguish nor joy?” “There are four conditions, your reverence, for the attainment of the freedom of mind which has neither anguish nor joy. In this case, your reverence, a monk by getting rid of joy, by getting rid of anguish, by the going down of his former pleasures and sorrows, enters on and abides in the fourth meditation which has neither anguish nor joy, and which is entirely purified by equanimity and mindfulness. These, your reverence, are the four conditions for attaining the freedom of mind which has neither anguish nor joy.”

“How many conditions are there, your reverence, for the attainment of the freedom of mind that is signless?” “There are two conditions, your reverence, for the attainment of the freedom of mind that is signless: paying no attention to any signs, and paying attention to the signless realm. These, your reverence, are the two conditions for the attainment of the freedom of mind that is signless.”

“How many conditions are there, your reverence, for the persistence of the freedom of mind that is signless?” “There are three conditions, your reverence, for the persistence of the freedom of mind that is signless: paying no attention to any signs, and paying attention to the signless realm, and a preceding preparation. These, your reverence, are the three conditions for the persistence of the freedom of mind that is signless.”

“How many conditions are there, your reverence, for emergence from the freedom of mind that is signless?” “There are the two conditions, your reverence, for emerging from the freedom of mind that is signless: paying attention to all signs, and not paying attention to the signless realm. These, your reverence, are the two conditions for emergence from the freedom of mind that is signless.”

“Your reverence, whatever is immeasurable freedom of mind and whatever is freedom of mind that is naught and whatever is freedom of mind that is void and whatever is freedom of mind that is signless, are these states different in connotation and different in denotation, or are they identical in connotation while being different only in denotation?” “Your reverence, whatever is immeasurable freedom of mind and whatever is the freedom of mind that is naught and whatever is freedom of mind that is void and whatever is freedom of mind that is signless, there is a method according to which these states are different in connotation as well as being different in denotation; and, your reverence, there is a method according to which these states are identical in connotation while being different in denotation. And what, your reverence, is the method according to which these states are different in connotation as well as being different in denotation? (1) As to this, your reverence, a monk abides having suffused the first quarter with a mind of friendliness, likewise the second, likewise the third, likewise the fourth; just so above, below, across; he dwells having suffused the whole world everywhere, in every way with a mind of friendliness, that is far-reaching, widespread, immeasurable, without enmity, without malevolence. (2) He dwells having suffused the first quarter with a mind of compassion, likewise the second, likewise the third, likewise the fourth; just so above, below, across; he dwells having suffused the whole world everywhere, in every way with a mind of compassion, that is far-reaching, widespread, immeasurable, without enmity, without malevolence. (3) He dwells having suffused the first quarter with a mind of sympathetic joy, likewise the second, likewise the third, likewise the fourth; just so above, below, across; he dwells having suffused the whole world everywhere, in every way with a mind of sympathetic joy, that is far-reaching, widespread, immeasurable, without enmity, without malevolence. (4) He dwells having suffused the first quarter with a mind of equanimity, likewise the second, likewise the third, likewise the fourth; just so above, below, across; he dwells having suffused the whole world everywhere, in every way with a mind of equanimity, that is far-reaching, widespread, immeasurable, without enmity, without malevolence. This, your reverence, is called immeasurable freedom of mind.”

“And what, your reverence, is the freedom of mind that is naught?” “As to this, your reverence, a monk passing quite beyond the plane of infinite consciousness, thinking, ‘There is not anything,’ enters on and abides in the plane of no-thing. This, your reverence, is called the freedom of mind that is naught.”

“And what, your reverence, is the freedom of mind that is void?” “As to this, your reverence, a monk forest-gone or gone to the root of a tree or gone to an empty place, reflects thus: ‘This is void of self or of what pertains to self.’ This, your reverence, is called the freedom of mind that is void.”

“And what, your reverence, is the freedom of mind that is signless?” “As to this, your reverence, a monk, by paying no attention to any signs, entering on the concentration of mind that is signless, abides therein. This, your reverence, is called the freedom of mind that is signless.

This, your reverence, is the method according to which these states are different in connotation as well as differing in denotation.”

“And what, your reverence, is the method according to which these states are identical in connotation while being different in denotation?” “(1) Attachment, your reverence, is productive of the measurable, hatred is productive of the measurable, confusion is productive of the measurable. For a monk whose cankers are destroyed, these are got rid of, cut off at the roots, made like a palm-tree stump so that they can come to no further existence in the future. To the extent, your reverence, that freedoms of mind are immeasurable, unshakable freedom of mind is shown to be their chief, for that unshakable freedom of mind is void of attachment, void of hatred, void of confusion. (2) Attachment, your reverence, is something (obstructive), hatred is something (obstructive), confusion is something (obstructive). For a monk whose cankers are destroyed, these are got rid of, cut off at the roots, made like a palm-tree stump so that they can come to no further existence in the future. To the extent, your reverence, that freedoms of mind are naught, unshakable freedom of mind is shown to be their chief, for that unshakable freedom of mind is void of attachment, void of hatred, void of confusion. (3) Attachment, your reverence, is productive of signs, hatred is productive of signs, confusion is productive of signs. For a monk whose cankers are destroyed these are got rid of, cut off at the roots, made like a palm-tree stump so that they can come to no further existence in the future. To the extent, your reverence, that freedoms of mind are signless, unshakable freedom of mind is shown to be their chief, for that unshakable freedom of mind is void of attachment, void of hatred, void of confusion.

This, your reverence, is the method according to which these states are identical in connotation while being different in denotation.”

Thus spoke the venerable Sāriputta. Delighted, the venerable Koṭṭhita the Great rejoiced in what the venerable Sāriputta had said.

Greater Discourse of the Miscellany: The Third

- Translator: I.B. Horner

- Editor: Brother Joe Smith


The Greater Series of Questions

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at Sāvatthi, in Jeta‘s Grove, in Anāthapiṇḍika‘s Park. Then in the evening Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita emerged from seclusion, approached Venerable Sāriputta, and conversed with him. When the appropriate polite conversation was completed, he sat to one side. When he was seated to one side, Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita said to Venerable Sāriputta:

Wisdom, Consciousness, Feeling, and Recognition

“Venerable, it is said ‘foolish, foolish.’ Venerable, why is one called ‘foolish’?”

“‘One does not understand, one does not understand’ – therefore, Venerable, one is called ‘foolish.’ And what does one not understand? One does not understand suffering, the origin of suffering, the cessation of suffering, and the path of practice which leads to the cessation of suffering. ‘One does not understand, one does not understand’ – therefore, Venerable, one is called ‘foolish.’”

“Excellent, Venerable,” Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita delighted and rejoiced in Venerable Sāriputta statements, then asked him a further question:

“Venerable, it is said ‘wise, wise.’ Venerable, why is one called ‘wise’?”

“‘One understands, one understands’ – therefore, Venerable, one is called ‘wise.’ And what does one understand? One understands suffering, the origin of suffering, the cessation of suffering, and the path of practice which leads to the cessation of suffering. ‘One understands, one understands’ – therefore, Venerable, one is called ‘wise.’”

“Venerable, it is said ‘consciousness, consciousness.’ Venerable, why is it called ‘consciousness’?”

“‘One cognizes, one cognizes’ – therefore, Venerable, it is called ‘consciousness.’ And what does one cognize? One cognizes ‘pleasant,’ ‘unpleasant,’ and ‘neither pleasant nor unpleasant.’ ‘One cognizes, one cognizes’ – therefore, Venerable, it is called ‘consciousness.’”

“Venerable, regarding wisdom and consciousness: are these phenomena separate or conjoined? Is it possible to distinguish these phenomena in order to describe what makes them different?”

“Venerable, regarding wisdom and consciousness: these phenomena are conjoined, not separate. It is not possible to distinguish these phenomena in order to describe what makes them different. Venerable, what one understands, one cognizes; what one cognizes, one understands. Therefore these phenomena are conjoined, not separate. It is not possible to distinguish these phenomena in order to describe what makes them different.”

“Venerable, regarding wisdom and consciousness: what is the difference between these phenomena which are conjoined and not separate?”

“Venerable, regarding wisdom and consciousness: the difference between these phenomena which are conjoined and not separate is that wisdom is to be developed, whereas consciousness is to be completely understood.”

“Venerable, it is said ‘feeling, feeling.’ Venerable, why is it called ‘feeling’?”

“‘One feels, one feels’ – therefore, Venerable, it is called ‘feeling.’ And what does one feel? One feels ‘pleasant,’ ‘unpleasant,’ and ‘neither pleasant nor unpleasant.’ ‘One feels, one feels’ – therefore, Venerable, it is called ‘feeling.’”

“Venerable, it is said ‘recognition, recognition.’ Venerable, why is it called ‘recognition’?”

“‘One recognizes, one recognizes’ – therefore, Venerable, it is called ‘recognition.’ And what does one recognize? One recognizes blue, yellow, red, and white.1 ‘One recognizes, one recognizes’ – therefore, Venerable, it is called ‘recognition.’”

“Venerable, regarding feeling, recognition, and consciousness: are these phenomena separate or conjoined? Is it possible to distinguish these phenomena in order to describe what makes them different?”

“Venerable, regarding feeling, recognition, and consciousness: these phenomena are conjoined, not separate. It is not possible to distinguish these phenomena in order to describe what makes them different. Venerable, what one feels, one recognizes; what one recognizes, one cognizes. Therefore these phenomena are conjoined, not separate. It is not possible to distinguish these phenomena in order to describe what makes them different.”

The Domain of Completely Pure Mind-consciousness

“Venerable, what can be known by a completely pure mind-consciousness which has been released from the five faculties?”

“Venerable, a completely pure mind-consciousness which has been released from the five faculties can know the dimension of infinite space with the thought ‘Space is infinite’; it can know the dimension of infinite consciousness with the thought ‘Consciousness is infinite’; it can know the dimension of nothingness with the thought ‘There is nothing.’”

“Venerable, using what does one understand a knowable phenomenon?”

“Venerable, one understands a knowable phenomenon using the eye of wisdom.”

“Venerable, what is the purpose of wisdom?”

“Venerable, the purpose of wisdom is higher knowledge, complete knowledge, and letting go.”

Right Perspective

“Venerable, how many conditions are there for the arising of right perspective?”

“Venerable, there are two conditions for the arising of right perspective: the voice of another, and wise attention. Venerable, these are the two conditions for the arising of right perspective.”

“Venerable, supported by how many factors does right perspective have mental liberation as its result and benefit and wisdom-liberation as its result and benefit?”

“Venerable, when supported by five factors, right perspective has mental liberation as its result and benefit and wisdom-liberation as its result and benefit. Here, Venerable, right perspective is supported by virtue, learning, conversation, tranquility, and insight2. Venerable, when supported by these five factors, right perspective has mental liberation as its result and benefit and wisdom-liberation as its result and benefit.”

Existence

“Venerable, how many kinds of existence are there?”

“Venerable, there are three kinds of existence: sensual existence, material existence, and immaterial existence.”

“Venerable, how does there come to be the production of renewed existence?”

“Venerable, when beings who are obstructed by ignorance and bound by craving seek delight in various places, there is production of renewed existence.”

“Venerable, how does there come to be no production of renewed existence?”

“Venerable, with the fading away of ignorance, the arising of knowledge, and the cessation of craving, there is no production of renewed existence.”

The First Jhāna

“Venerable, what is the first Jhāna?”

“Here, Venerable, a monk who is separated from sensuality and separated from unwholesome phenomena attains and remains in the first Jhāna, which is accompanied by thought and investigation, and has rapture and happiness produced by seclusion.”

“Venerable, how many factors does the first Jhāna have?”

“Venerable, the first Jhāna has five factors. Here, Venerable, a monk who has attained the first Jhāna engages in thought, investigation, rapture, happiness, and mental one-pointedness. Venerable, in this way the first Jhāna has five factors.”

“Venerable, in the first Jhāna, what factors have been abandoned and what factors are present?”

“Venerable, in the first Jhāna, five factors have been abandoned and five factors are present. Here, Venerable, a monk who has attained the first Jhāna has abandoned interest in sensuality, he has abandoned aversion, he has abandoned sloth and torpor, he has abandoned restlessness and remorse, and he has abandoned doubt. He engages in thought, investigation, rapture, happiness, and mental one-pointedness. Venerable, it is in this way that, in the first Jhāna, five factors have been abandoned and five factors are present.”

The Five Sense-Faculties and the Nature of Vitality

“Venerable, these five faculties have different territories and different domains, and they do not experience each other‘s territories and domains: namely, the eye-faculty, the ear-faculty, the nose-faculty, the tongue-faculty, and the body-faculty. Venerable, as regards these five faculties that have different territories and different domains, and that do not experience each other‘s territories and domains: what is their resort, and what experiences their territories and domains?”

“Venerable, these five faculties have different territories and different domains, and they do not experience each other‘s territories and domains: namely, the eye-faculty, the ear-faculty, the nose-faculty, the tongue-faculty, and the body-faculty. Venerable, as regards these five faculties that have different territories and different domains, and that do not experience each other‘s territories and domains: the mind is their resort, and the mind experiences their territories and domains.”

“Venerable, these are the five faculties: the eye-faculty, the ear-faculty, the nose-faculty, the tongue-faculty, and the body-faculty. Venerable, what is it that the existence of the five faculties depends on?”

“Venerable, these are the five faculties: the eye-faculty, the ear-faculty, the nose-faculty, the tongue-faculty, and the body-faculty. Venerable, the existence of the five faculties depends on vitality.”

“Venerable, what is it that the existence of vitality depends on?”

“The existence of vitality depends on warmth.”

“Venerable, what is it that the existence of warmth depends on?”

“The existence of warmth depends on vitality.”

“Venerable, we understand the Venerable Sāriputta‘s statement just now as ‘The existence of vitality depends on warmth.’ We also understand the Venerable Sāriputta‘s statement just now as ‘The existence of warmth depends on vitality.’ Venerable, how is the meaning of this speech to be seen?”

“Therefore, Venerable, I will make a simile; some discerning people understand the meaning of a statement by means of a simile. Venerable, just as the radiance of a burning oil-lamp is apparent because of the flame, and the flame is apparent because of the radiance; in the same way, Venerable, the existence of vitality depends on warmth, and the existence of warmth depends on vitality.”

“Venerable, are vitality-formations experienceable phenomena, or are vitality-formations one thing and experienceable phenomena something else?”

“Venerable, vitality-formations are not experienceable phenomena. Venerable, if vitality-formations were experienceable phenomena, then a monk who has attained the cessation of perception and feeling3 cannot be seen emerging from that attainment. Venerable, because vitality-formations are one thing and experienceable phenomena are something else, then a monk who has attained the cessation of perception and feeling can be seen emerging from that attainment.”

“Venerable, how many phenomena has this body abandoned when it lies forsaken and discarded like an insentient log?”

“Venerable, when this body has abandoned three phenomena – vitality, heat, and consciousness – then this body lies forsaken and discarded like an insentient log.”

“Venerable, what is the difference between one who is dead, and a monk who has attained the cessation of perception and feeling?”

“Venerable, when one is dead, the physical formations have ceased and subsided, the verbal formations have ceased and subsided, the mental formations have ceased and subsided, vitality is completely eliminated, warmth has faded, and the faculties have dissipated. When a monk has attained the cessation of perception and feeling, the physical formations have ceased and subsided, the verbal formations have ceased and subsided, the mental formations have ceased and subsided, vitality is not completely eliminated, warmth has not faded, and the faculties are very clear. Venerable, this is the difference between one who is dead, and a monk who has attained the cessation of perception and feeling.”

Mental Liberations

“Venerable, how many conditions are there for attainment of the mental liberation that is neither painful nor pleasant?”

“Venerable, there are four conditions for the attainment of the mental liberation that is neither painful nor pleasant. Here, Venerable, a monk has abandoned pleasure, has abandoned pain, and with the prior disappearance of elation and dejection, he attains and remains in the fourth Jhāna, which is neither painful nor pleasant, and has purification due to equanimity and mindfulness. Venerable, these are the four conditions for the attainment of the mental liberation that is neither painful nor pleasant.”

“Venerable, how many conditions are there for attainment of the mental liberation that has no subject5?”

“Venerable, there are two conditions for attainment of the mental liberation that has no subject – non-attention to any subject, and attention to the element of subjectlessness. Venerable, these are the two conditions for attainment of the mental liberation that has no subject.”

“Venerable, how many conditions are there for continuation of the mental liberation that has no subject?”

“Venerable, there are three conditions for continuation of the mental liberation that has no subject – non-attention to any subject, attention to the element of subjectlessness, and prior preparation6. Venerable, these are the three conditions for continuation of the mental liberation that has no subject.”

“Venerable, how many conditions are there for emergence from the mental liberation that has no subject?”

“Venerable, there are two conditions for emergence from the mental liberation that has no subject – attention to any subject, and non-attention to the element of subjectlessness. Venerable, these are the two conditions for emergence from the mental liberation that has no subject.”

“Venerable, regarding limitless mental liberation, nothingness mental liberation, emptiness mental liberation, and subjectless mental liberation: are these phenomena different in meaning and different in name, or are they one in meaning and different only in name?”

“Venerable, regarding limitless mental liberation, nothingness mental liberation, emptiness mental liberation, and subjectless mental liberation: Venerable, there is a description whereby these phenomena are different in meaning and different in name, and there is a description whereby these phenomena are one in meaning and different only in name.”

“Venerable, what is the description whereby these phenomena are different in meaning and different in name?”

“Here, venerable, with a mind of loving-friendliness, a monk pervades the first direction, as well as the second, third, and fourth direction7. Thus, above, below, all around, impartially, and all-encompassing, he pervades the entire world with a mind of loving-friendliness that is abundant, vast, limitless, free of hostility, and free of enmity. With a mind of compassion… empathic joy8… equanimity, a monk pervades the first direction, as well as the second, third, and fourth direction. Thus, above, below, all around, impartially, and all-encompassing, he pervades the entire world with a mind of equanimity that is abundant, vast, limitless, free of hostility, and free of enmity. Venerable, this is called ‘limitless mental liberation.’”

“Venerable, what is ‘nothingness mental liberation’?”

“Here, Venerable, a monk completely transcends the dimension of consciousness, and, perceiving ‘There is nothing,’ he attains and remains in the dimension of nothingness. Venerable, this is called ‘nothingness mental liberation.’”

“Venerable, what is ‘emptiness mental liberation’?”

“Here, Venerable, a monk who has gone to a forest, to the base of a tree, or to an empty house, considers in this way: ‘This is empty of a soul or of anything belonging to a soul.’ Venerable, this is called ‘emptiness mental liberation.’”

“Venerable, what is ‘subjectless mental liberation’?”

“Here, Venerable, by not paying attention to any subject, a monk attains and remains in the subjectless mental liberation. Venerable, this is called ‘subjectless mental liberation.’

“Venerable, this is the description whereby these phenomena are different in meaning and different in name.”

“Venerable, what is the description whereby these phenomena are one in meaning in different only in name?”

“Venerable, lust is a limit-maker, hatred is a limit-maker, delusion is a limit-maker. For a monk who has eliminated his defilements, these are abandoned, cut off at the root, made like a tree-trunk, obliterated, incapable of arising in the future. Venerable, of all the limitless mental liberations, the unshakable mental liberation is considered the best; and the unshakable mental liberation is empty of lust, empty of hatred, empty of delusion.

“Venerable, lust is something, hatred is something, delusion is something. For a monk who has eliminated his defilements, these are abandoned, cut off at the root, made like a tree-trunk, obliterated, incapable of arising in the future. Venerable, of all the nothingness mental liberations, the unshakable mental liberation is considered the best; and the unshakable mental liberation is empty of lust, empty of hatred, empty of delusion.

“Venerable, lust is a subject-maker, hatred is a subject-maker, delusion is a subject-maker. For a monk who has eliminated his defilements, these are abandoned, cut off at the root, made like a tree-trunk, obliterated, incapable of arising in the future. Venerable, of all the subjectless mental liberations, the unshakable mental liberation is considered the best; and the unshakable mental liberation is empty of lust, empty of hatred, empty of delusion.

“Venerable, this is the description whereby these phenomena are one in meaning in different only in name.”

This is what Venerable Sāriputta said. Satisfied, Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita delighted in Venerable Sāriputta‘s speech.

- Translator: Suddhāso Bhikkhu

- Editor: Aminah Borg-Luck


The Great Classification

It’s called feeling because it feels.”
“They speak of this thing called ‘perception’.
How is perception defined?”
“It’s called perception because it perceives.
And what does it perceive?
So I have heard.
At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
Then in the late afternoon, Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita came out of retreat, went to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him.
When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Sāriputta:
“Reverend, they speak of ‘a witless person’.
How is a witless person defined?”
“Reverend, they’re called witless because they don’t understand.
And what don’t they understand?
They don’t understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering.’
They’re called witless because they don’t understand.”
Saying “Good, reverend,” Mahākoṭṭhita approved and agreed with what Sāriputta said. Then he asked another question:
“They speak of ‘a wise person’.
How is a wise person defined?”
“They’re called wise because they understand.
And what do they understand?
They understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering.’
They’re called wise because they understand.”
“They speak of ‘consciousness’.
How is consciousness defined?”
“It’s called consciousness because it cognizes.
And what does it cognize?
It cognizes ‘pleasure’ and ‘pain’ and ‘neutral’.
It’s called consciousness because it cognizes.”
“Wisdom and consciousness—
are these things mixed or separate?
And can we completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them?”
“Wisdom and consciousness—
these things are mixed, not separate.
And you can never completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them.
For you understand what you cognize, and you cognize what you understand.
That’s why these things are mixed, not separate.
And you can never completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them.”
“Wisdom and consciousness—
what is the difference between these things that are mixed, not separate?”

“The difference between these things is that wisdom should be developed, while consciousness should be completely understood.”

“They speak of this thing called ‘feeling’.
How is feeling defined?”
“It’s called feeling because it feels.
And what does it feel?
It feels pleasure, pain, and neutral.
It perceives blue, yellow, red, and white.
It’s called perception because it perceives.”
“Feeling, perception, and consciousness—
are these things mixed or separate?
And can we completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them?”
“Feeling, perception, and consciousness—
these things are mixed, not separate.
And you can never completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them.
For you perceive what you feel, and you cognize what you perceive.
That’s why these things are mixed, not separate.
And you can never completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them.”
“What can be known by purified mind consciousness released from the five senses?”
“Aware that ‘space is infinite’ it can know the dimension of infinite space. Aware that ‘consciousness is infinite’ it can know the dimension of infinite consciousness. Aware that ‘there is nothing at all’ it can know the dimension of nothingness.”
“How do you understand something that can be known?”
“You understand something that can be known with the eye of wisdom.”
“What is the purpose of wisdom?”
“The purpose of wisdom is direct knowledge, complete understanding, and giving up.”
“How many conditions are there for the arising of right view?”
“There are two conditions for the arising of right view:
the words of another and proper attention.
These are the two conditions for the arising of right view.”
“When right view is supported by how many factors does it have freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom as its fruit and benefit?”
“When right view is supported by five factors it has freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom as its fruit and benefit.
It’s when right view is supported by ethics, learning, discussion, serenity, and discernment.
When right view is supported by these five factors it has freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom as its fruit and benefit.”
“How many states of existence are there?”
“Reverend, there are these three states of existence.
Existence in the sensual realm, the realm of luminous form, and the formless realm.”
“But how is there rebirth into a new state of existence in the future?”
“It’s because of sentient beings—shrouded by ignorance and fettered by craving—chasing pleasure in various realms.
That’s how there is rebirth into a new state of existence in the future.”
“But how is there no rebirth into a new state of existence in the future?”
“It’s when ignorance fades away, knowledge arises, and craving ceases.
That’s how there is no rebirth into a new state of existence in the future.”
“But what, reverend, is the first absorption?”
“Reverend, it’s when a mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected.
This is called the first absorption.”
“But how many factors does the first absorption have?”
“The first absorption has five factors.
When a mendicant has entered the first absorption, placing the mind, keeping it connected, rapture, bliss, and unification of mind are present.
That’s how the first absorption has five factors.”
“But how many factors has the first absorption given up and how many does it possess?”
“The first absorption has given up five factors and possesses five factors.
When a mendicant has entered the first absorption, sensual desire, ill will, dullness and drowsiness, restlessness and remorse, and doubt are given up.
Placing the mind, keeping it connected, rapture, bliss, and unification of mind are present.
That’s how the first absorption has given up five factors and possesses five factors.”
“Reverend, these five faculties have different scopes and different ranges, and don’t experience each others’ scope and range. That is,
the faculties of the eye, ear, nose, tongue, and body.
What do these five faculties, with their different scopes and ranges, have recourse to? What experiences their scopes and ranges?”


“These five faculties, with their different scopes and ranges, have recourse to the mind. And the mind experiences their scopes and ranges.”


“These five faculties depend on what to continue?”


“These five faculties depend on life to continue.”
“But what does life depend on to continue?”
“Life depends on warmth to continue.”
“But what does warmth depend on to continue?”
“Warmth depends on life to continue.”
“Just now I understood you to say:
‘Life depends on warmth to continue.’
But I also understood you to say:
‘Warmth depends on life to continue.’
How then should we see the meaning of this statement?”
“Well then, reverend, I shall give you a simile.
For by means of a simile some sensible people understand the meaning of what is said.
Suppose there was an oil lamp burning. The light appears dependent on the flame, and the flame appears dependent on the light.
In the same way, life depends on warmth to continue, and warmth depends on life to continue.”
“Are the life forces the same things as the phenomena that are felt? Or are they different things?”
“The life forces are not the same things as the phenomena that are felt.
For if the life forces and the phenomena that are felt were the same things, a mendicant who had attained the cessation of perception and feeling would not emerge from it.
But because the life forces and the phenomena that are felt are different things, a mendicant who has attained the cessation of perception and feeling can emerge from it.”
“How many things must this body lose before it lies forsaken, tossed aside like an insentient log?”
“This body must lose three things before it lies forsaken, tossed aside like an insentient log: vitality, warmth, and consciousness.”
“What’s the difference between someone who has passed away and a mendicant who has attained the cessation of perception and feeling?”
“When someone dies, their physical, verbal, and mental processes have ceased and stilled; their vitality is spent; their warmth is dissipated; and their faculties have disintegrated.
When a mendicant has attained the cessation of perception and feeling, their physical, verbal, and mental processes have ceased and stilled. But their vitality is not spent; their warmth is not dissipated; and their faculties are very clear.
That’s the difference between someone who has passed away and a mendicant who has attained the cessation of perception and feeling.”
“How many conditions are necessary to attain the neutral release of the heart?”
“Four conditions are necessary to attain the neutral release of the heart.
Giving up pleasure and pain, and ending former happiness and sadness, a mendicant enters and remains in the fourth absorption, without pleasure or pain, with pure equanimity and mindfulness.
These four conditions are necessary to attain the neutral release of the heart.”
“How many conditions are necessary to attain the signless release of the heart?”
“Two conditions are necessary to attain the signless release of the heart:
not focusing on any signs, and focusing on the signless.
These two conditions are necessary to attain the signless release of the heart.”
“How many conditions are necessary to remain in the signless release of the heart?”
“Three conditions are necessary to remain in the signless release of the heart:
not focusing on any signs, focusing on the signless, and a previous determination.
These three conditions are necessary to remain in the signless release of the heart.”
“How many conditions are necessary to emerge from the signless release of the heart?”
“Two conditions are necessary to emerge from the signless release of the heart:
focusing on all signs, and not focusing on the signless.
These two conditions are necessary to emerge from the signless release of the heart.”
“The limitless release of the heart, and the release of the heart through nothingness, and the release of the heart through emptiness, and the signless release of the heart: do these things differ in both meaning and phrasing? Or do they mean the same thing, and differ only in the phrasing?”
“There is a way in which these things differ in both meaning and phrasing.
But there’s also a way in which they mean the same thing, and differ only in the phrasing.
And what’s the way in which these things differ in both meaning and phrasing?
Firstly, a mendicant meditates spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.
They meditate spreading a heart full of compassion …
They meditate spreading a heart full of rejoicing …
They meditate spreading a heart full of equanimity to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of equanimity to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.
This is called the limitless release of the heart.
And what is the release of the heart through nothingness?
It’s when a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of infinite consciousness, aware that ‘there is nothing at all’, enters and remains in the dimension of nothingness.
This is called the heart’s release through nothingness.
And what is the release of the heart through emptiness?
It’s when a mendicant has gone to a wilderness, or to the root of a tree, or to an empty hut, and reflects like this:
‘This is empty of a self or what belongs to a self.’
This is called the release of the heart through emptiness.
And what is the signless release of the heart?
It’s when a mendicant, not focusing on any signs, enters and remains in the signless immersion of the heart.
This is called the signless release of the heart.
This is the way in which these things differ in both meaning and phrasing.
And what’s the way in which they mean the same thing, and differ only in the phrasing?
Greed, hate, and delusion are makers of limits.
A mendicant who has ended the defilements has given these up, cut them off at the root, made them like a palm stump, and obliterated them, so they are unable to arise in the future.
The unshakable release of the heart is said to be the best kind of limitless release of the heart.
That unshakable release of the heart is empty of greed, hate, and delusion.
Greed is something, hate is something, and delusion is something.
A mendicant who has ended the defilements has given these up, cut them off at the root, made them like a palm stump, and obliterated them, so they are unable to arise in the future.
The unshakable release of the heart is said to be the best kind of release of the heart through nothingness.
That unshakable release of the heart is empty of greed, hate, and delusion.
Greed, hate, and delusion are makers of signs.
A mendicant who has ended the defilements has given these up, cut them off at the root, made them like a palm stump, and obliterated them, so they are unable to arise in the future.
The unshakable release of the heart is said to be the best kind of signless release of the heart.
That unshakable release of the heart is empty of greed, hate, and delusion.
This is the way in which they mean the same thing, and differ only in the phrasing.”
This is what Venerable Sāriputta said.
Satisfied, Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita was happy with what Sāriputta said.