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sn.35.81 Saṁyutta Nikāya (Linked Discourses)

A Number of Bhikkhus

Then a number of bhikkhus approached the Blessed One … and said to him: “Here, venerable sir, wanderers of other sects ask us: ‘For what purpose, friends, is the holy life lived under the ascetic Gotama?’ When we are asked thus, venerable sir, we answer those wanderers thus: ‘It is, friends, for the full understanding of suffering that the holy life is lived under the Blessed One.’ We hope, venerable sir, that when we answer thus we state what has been said by the Blessed One and do not misrepresent him with what is contrary to fact; that we explain in accordance with the Dhamma, and that no reasonable consequence of our assertion gives ground for criticism.”

“For sure, bhikkhus, when you answer thus you state what has been said by me and do not misrepresent me with what is contrary to fact; you explain in accordance with the Dhamma, and no reasonable consequence of your assertion gives ground for criticism. For, bhikkhus, it is for the full understanding of suffering that the holy life is lived under me.

“But, bhikkhus, if wanderers of other sects ask you: ‘What, friends, is that suffering for the full understanding of which the holy life is lived under the ascetic Gotama?’—being asked thus, you should answer them thus: ‘The eye, friends, is suffering: it is for the full understanding of this that the holy life is lived under the Blessed One. Forms are suffering … Whatever feeling arises with eye-contact as condition … that too is suffering … The mind is suffering … Whatever feeling arises with mind-contact as condition … that too is suffering: it is for the full understanding of this that the holy life is lived under the Blessed One. This, friends, is that suffering for the full understanding of which the holy life is lived under the Blessed One.’

“Being asked thus, bhikkhus, you should answer those wanderers of other sects in such a way.”

- Translator: Bhikkhu Bodhi

- Editor: Blake Walsh


Several Mendicants

Then several mendicants went up to the Buddha … and asked him,
“Sir, sometimes wanderers who follow other paths ask us:
‘Reverends, what’s the purpose of leading the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama?’
We answer them like this:
‘The purpose of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha is to completely understand suffering.’
Answering this way, we trust that we repeat what the Buddha has said, and don’t misrepresent him with an untruth. We trust our explanation is in line with the teaching, and that there are no legitimate grounds for rebuke or criticism.”
“Indeed, in answering this way you repeat what I’ve said, and don’t misrepresent me with an untruth. Your explanation is in line with the teaching, and there are no legitimate grounds for rebuke or criticism.
For the purpose of leading the spiritual life under me is to completely understand suffering.
If wanderers who follow other paths were to ask you:
‘Reverends, what is that suffering?’
You should answer them:
‘Reverends, the eye is suffering. The purpose of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha is to completely understand this.
Sights … Eye consciousness … Eye contact …
The pleasant, painful, or neutral feeling that arises conditioned by eye contact is also suffering.
The purpose of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha is to completely understand this.
Ear … Nose … Tongue … Body … Mind …
The pleasant, painful, or neutral feeling that arises conditioned by mind contact is also suffering.
The purpose of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha is to completely understand this.
This is that suffering. The purpose of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha is to completely understand this.’
When questioned by wanderers who follow other paths, that’s how you should answer them.”