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sn.35.233 Saṁyutta Nikāya (Linked Discourses)

Kāmabhū

On one occasion the Venerable Ānanda and the Venerable Kāmabhū were dwelling at Kosambī in Ghosita’s Park. Then, in the evening, the Venerable Kāmabhū emerged from seclusion and approached the Venerable Ānanda. He exchanged greetings with the Venerable Ānanda and, when they had concluded their greetings and cordial talk, he sat down to one side and said to him:

“How is it, friend Ānanda, is the eye the fetter of forms or are forms the fetter of the eye?… Is the mind the fetter of mental phenomena or are mental phenomena the fetter of the mind?”

“Friend Kāmabhū, the eye is not the fetter of forms nor are forms the fetter of the eye … The mind is not the fetter of mental phenomena nor are mental phenomena the fetter of the mind, but rather the desire and lust that arise there in dependence on both: that is the fetter there.

“Suppose, friend, a black ox and a white ox were yoked together by a single harness or yoke. Would one be speaking rightly if one were to say: ‘The black ox is the fetter of the white ox; the white ox is the fetter of the black ox’?”

“No, friend. The black ox is not the fetter of the white ox nor is the white ox the fetter of the black ox, but rather the single harness or yoke by which the two are yoked together: that is the fetter there.”

“So too, friend, the eye is not the fetter of forms … nor are mental phenomena the fetter of the mind, but rather the desire and lust that arise there in dependence on both: that is the fetter there.”

- Translator: Bhikkhu Bodhi

- Editor: Blake Walsh


With Kāmabhū

At one time the venerables Ānanda and Kāmabhū were staying near Kosambi, in Ghosita’s Monastery.
Then in the late afternoon, Venerable Kāmabhū came out of retreat, went to Venerable Ānanda, and exchanged greetings with him.
When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Ānanda:
“Reverend Ānanda, which is it? Is the eye the fetter of sights, or are sights the fetter of the eye?
Is the ear … nose … tongue … body …
mind the fetter of thoughts, or are thoughts the fetter of the mind?”
“Reverend Kāmabhū, the eye is not the fetter of sights, nor are sights the fetter of the eye.
The fetter there is the desire and greed that arises from the pair of them.
The ear … nose … tongue … body …
mind is not the fetter of thoughts, nor are thoughts the fetter of the mind.
The fetter there is the desire and greed that arises from the pair of them.
Suppose there was a black ox and a white ox yoked by a single harness or yoke.
Would it be right to say that
the black ox is the yoke of the white ox, or the white ox is the yoke of the black ox?”
“No, reverend.
The black ox is not the yoke of the white ox, nor is the white ox the yoke of the black ox.
The yoke there is the single harness or yoke that they’re yoked by.”
“In the same way, the eye is not the fetter of sights, nor are sights the fetter of the eye.
The ear … nose … tongue … body …
mind is not the fetter of thoughts, nor are thoughts the fetter of the mind.
The fetter there is the desire and greed that arises from the pair of them.”